Mad Irishman

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  And the jackals move in

  by stillin in

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  2. scandals

  a woman whom i knew as a teenager stayed over at another witness family's home.

  the brother who was the father was caught peeking at her while she was taking a shower.

  she told the elders, a jc was held, the brother was repentant and had loss of privileges for a year.

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  I'm not sure what she could sue the WT for. Where were they negligent in this?

  Sounds like sharks circling in the water.
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  "back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

  their response was quite amazing.

  they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

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  It is true that 30, 40, and 50 years ago that child abuse was never talked about, people thought children were potentially lying, and that it wasn't the issue that is it nowadays. Western society has come a long way about child abuse the last 50 years, because it used to be hush-hush, it was never brought to the authorities, and it was something taboo and shameful; and even when kids came forward their parents would never go to the police. I have non-JW's relatives who were abused by parents and priests 40 years ago and none of them went to the police. It was considered shameful for the family to even let it be known that it happened. That's just the way society was. I think we often forget this. Nobody was talking about child abuse 30 and 40 years ago. Not like now.
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  How many JWs actually died in Nazi camps

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the jws have tried to pad the number of jws in camps.

  how many actually went and how many died?

  can you site the source also?

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  This topic is stupid. There were Jews who betrayed Jews in concentration camps and acted as Copos. So what does that have to do with the majority of Jews who were slaughtered? There will always be outliers in any group. Non-JW historians have written numerous accounts about JW's in Nazi concentration camps. There were JW's who were slaughtered in the camps. It's horrible any way you look at it. And to try and spin events with the idea of always trying to put JW's in negative light is the exact sort of thing most of you rile against about them.

  And blaming Rutherford for what Hitler did is really ignorant. I don't think Rutherford wanted to see Jews killed and slaughtered and burned in ovens. Nor could he have foresaw Hitler killing JW's like he did or putting them in camps or cutting their heads off. No one did. But now you all look back and want to rewrite what actually happened when most of you are bias by a strange obsessive hatred, never mind the fact that most of you never went to college, and certainly none of you are un-bias scholars.

  It's rather funny how some of you let your absolute hatred of everything JW let yourself do constant revision of history. It certainly isn't fair or balanced, and the constant drum beat that everything that has ever happened in the history of Jehovah's Witness is a lie would seem to negate your ability to comment on almost anything. These posts are always full of vitriolic hatred. How anyone could take them seriously is beyond me. It is akin to sports fans of one team talking about their rivals and how terrible and rotten and evil they are and everything they do is nefarious. Objectivity here is usually in short supply.
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  "Who is Morris III?" Showed up in an FB thread--A surprising answer followed.

  by oppostate in

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  or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....

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  P.S. - I said Tony has always been dirt poor. His father was middle class. Certainly not in the Phillip Morris category. His father stopped talking to him back in the 70's. He disowned Tony when he became a Witness.
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  Freemason Wilbur Ross... buying back Watchtower assets for the Rothschild family

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  freemason wilbur ross, a well-connected banking tycoon with strong ties to the rothschild family has just bid on some watchtower buildings in brooklyn... is the watchtower returning assets to their mother organization?.

  http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/ross_for_jehovah_witnesses_bldgs_komlwtyitfqj3e0ly5fsmk.

  also, please view this fairly recent interview with forbes magazine... seems carefully scripted on both ends.... http://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyabenedicto/2011/01/31/wilbur-ross-on-the-economy/.

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  Only crazy people believe in a connection between Freemasons and JW's!
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  Freemason Wilbur Ross... buying back Watchtower assets for the Rothschild family

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
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  freemason wilbur ross, a well-connected banking tycoon with strong ties to the rothschild family has just bid on some watchtower buildings in brooklyn... is the watchtower returning assets to their mother organization?.

  http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/ross_for_jehovah_witnesses_bldgs_komlwtyitfqj3e0ly5fsmk.

  also, please view this fairly recent interview with forbes magazine... seems carefully scripted on both ends.... http://www.forbes.com/sites/tanyabenedicto/2011/01/31/wilbur-ross-on-the-economy/.

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  Only crazy people talk about Freemasons and JW's having a connection.
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  Other Religions use the Name JEHOVAH too

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are jehovah's witnesses really the only religion that promotes and preaches the name of jehovah?.

  jw's are always claiming that they are the only religion that preaches and uses the name jehovah, and that is why only they will be saved.

  for example, look at this quote from the watchtower:.

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  Jehovah has always been the English translation of Yahweh. This has nothing to do with JW's. And before the 20th Century almost all Christian religions refer to God in English as Jehovah.
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  "Who is Morris III?" Showed up in an FB thread--A surprising answer followed.

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....

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  QUOTE: "If the only subject he could talk about was the Watchtower then how did he manage to talk so much about Vietnam? Regardless, he sounds like a person prone to being obsessed."

  
  

  He spoke about Vietnam in his talks in relation to the Bible and the witnesses.
  

  And, yes, Tony has not changed in personality since the early 1970's. And for those that want to know he processed to be of the anointed way back then. It isn't something recent.
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  A Question

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.

  or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.

  i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..

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  Mad Irishman

  There is no cost to the congregation.
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  "Who is Morris III?" Showed up in an FB thread--A surprising answer followed.

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  or maybe not so surprising after all, you be the judge....

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  Mad Irishman

  Oh my God. This is the Internet at its funniest. Tony Morris has no relation to the Phillips Morris family or business. I knew him many years ago. He has always been drop-dead poor and so was his whole extended family. To Tony there is only the Witnesses. If you knew him you would know that. He is one of those people who literally cannot talk about any other subject. I know born agains like this. I know JW's like this. He was in Vietnam. When he got out and became a Witness all those years ago he wouldn't shut up about it. It was in every one of his talks in the 70's.

  A few things to clear up. Tony was not a witness when he was in Vietnam.

  He never looked like the photo of that Joseph Parisi someone else posted in that other thread. In the early 1970's he was balding with black hair and looked much like he looked now only thinner.

  He isn't someone else pretending to be Tony Morris. He's always been this same guy.

  I can vouch for who he is going back to 1971.

  If you met him (going all the way back to the early 70's) you either love him or can't stand him. He's not someone who leaves anyone in between about how they are going to feel about him.